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От Alla Kuznetsova (2:5020/828.61) к Pavel Polakow

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Здpавствуй, Pavel!

Понедельник 30 Декабря 2013 20:59, ты писал(а) мне:

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Кто раньше встал и палку взял,

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> тот и капрал...

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hа следующий день будет другой

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> капрал?

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Обычно раньше всех встает один

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> человек...

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Какой кошмар...

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Для всех остальных...

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Для него тоже - вставать раньше

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> всех!..

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Для него еще и другой: если кто-то

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> встанет раньше, рассчитается сразу за

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> все...

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ранний подъем - это полное не ква. Уху.

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Подъем при помощи палки - имхо еще

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> большее не ква...

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Вполне...

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Давай к Толкиену вернемся, ладно?

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Как ты думаешь, а у него это сказка или

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> фэнтези?

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  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"Хоббит" - ближе к сказке. "ВК" - явное

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> фэнтези, эпическое и все такое...

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> А ты как думаешь?

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Имхо там все по ходу сюжета линяет от сказки

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> к фэнтези... И мне это несколько

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> удивительно.

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Да там и начало довольно эпическое...

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> В начале там эпического имхо только глава

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> вторая, явно написанная и вставленная позже...

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Так ведь и жизнь Фродо героической стала сильно

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> не сразу...

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Он имхо и до самого конца не похож на героя...

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> А в этом и вся его трагедия. Он не герой, а жизнь

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> требует героизма. Он требуемое-то дает, но хорошо

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ли ему от этого?..

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> И что же он делает такого героического?

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Он выполняет свой долг...

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> В принципе то же самое можно сказать про всех

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> людей... Он из таких "неизвестных героев"...

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Вот в том-то и вся фишка романа!..

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>> И это автоматически имхо выводит роман из жанра героик

 PP>>>>>>>>>>>>> фэнтези...

 AK>>>>>>>>>>>> А куда переводит?..

 PP>>>>>>>>>>> А черт его знает... Может быть, в толкиенистику...

 AK>>>>>>>>>> Сам себе жанр?..

 PP>>>>>>>>> Чем он хуже Желязны?

 AK>>>>>>>> А что Желязны?

 PP>>>>>>> Он по легенде, когда узнавал новое определение

 PP>>>>>>> фантастики, специально писал рассказ, этому

 PP>>>>>>> определению противоречащий...

 AK>>>>>> Зато не противоречащий предыдущему?..

 PP>>>>> Про это ничего неизвестно...

 AK>>>> Так ведь это тоже интересно!

 PP>>> Вот и писать как Толкиен имхо получилось только

 PP>>> у самого Толкиена...

 AK>> Так ведь это у всех так...

 PP> Имхо далеко не у всех...

Что, так многие умеют писать "как кто-то другой"?

С уважением - Alla, Молча                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   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